Ep. 44 - Doing Agile vs. being agile with Pragmatic Programmer Dave Thomas

Dave Thomas, co-author of The Pragmatic Programmer and Agile Manifesto, on the true spirit of being agile (vs. "doing agile"), common mistakes engineering teams make, and common practices of successful teams.

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Segments

• [00:50] Dave's background

• [09:12] The genesis of The Pragmatic Programmer

• [13:14] People don't know what they want, importance of feedback loops

• [20:50] Doing Agile vs. being agile

• [25:09] Practices of successful engineering teams

• [35:08] Being pragmatic at an early stage startup

• [42:43] Things that are still true 24 years after the book was published

• [53:58] How does a book define its author's identity?

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Show notes

• The Pragmatic Programmer

• The Pragmatic Bookshelf

• The Agile Manifesto